Happy Thursday, everyone! Summer school is winding down for the kids, which means August will be a month of Blondie, Biff, Bash, and I driving each other crazy–I mean, being creative together. 🙂 No matter what, though, I hope to keep writing here, finishing up my latest release (more on that at the end of this post!), and connecting with more of you beautiful souls! x
It’s been such an honor to connect with so many different authors from across the world. Today I am pleased to introduce you to Australian poet Frank Prem. Take it away, Frank!

Hi Jean, thanks for the opportunity to chat today.
I’m a writer of free verse poetry, for the most part, resident in a small town in Victoria (Australia). I’ve been writing and developing my approach to poetry for over forty years, now, and have recently become the Indie published author of two collections. The first – Small Town Kid – came out in December 2018, while the next – Devil in the Wind – was released in May 2019.
When I’m not actively pursuing writing and other authorly pursuits I work as a psychiatric nurse, here in the town, in a small long-term rehabilitation unit.
The town I live in – Beechworth – is a pretty little place of around 3,000 residents. We have a gold mining history dating back to the 1860s, and the township itself is very well preserved, with a lot of stone buildings hewn from the local honey granite (a warm, pinkish colour in the rock).
We have become a tourist town, with thousands of visitors passing through each year, and most of them making a beeline for the well known Beechworth Bakery (https://www.beechworthbakery.com.au/).

It’s mostly a quiet life, but very pleasant, all in all.
You may have noticed how much I love to share the music that inspires my writing. Do you also enjoy music to write, or do you require silence? If the former, would you like to recommend any favorites?
Yes, music is such a gift to us, Jean, and it has influenced my writing immesurable. In case you’re wondering, my personal taste always leads to me to find a wonderful voice – regardless of genre. The voice I have gravitated to most is that of Emmy Lou Harris, who is mostly known as a Country singer, but actually able to sing anything.
Oh my gosh, what a coincidence! She’s helped me write as well, especially with my fantasy novel Beauty’s Price.
I generally write in silence, but the music in language is quite critical to my work. My usual approach is to create a melody of some sort in my head and to sing my work (silently) line by line to try to imbue it with a sense of song. My often repeated mantra is that ‘rhyme should be invisible, while free verse should be sung’.
Beautifully said, Sir.
Have you ever gotten reader’s block with another poet or prose writer? How did you overcome it?
Yes I have, Jean. I’m a very poor reader of the work of other poets. I worry very much that I will get other work in my head and inadvertently plagiarise or otherwise stray from my own track.
With prose, I tend to return over and over to a few favourite writers as my mainstay, with a greater willingness to branch out and experiment with reading speculative fiction. In recent times, particularly space opera fiction. Bang-bang shoot-em-ups in the stars are a wonderful freedom for me, that is far enough from any realities down here on earth to be completely enjoyable.
I think with my general reading I am looking for inspiration in my own work. Recently I read the entire translated work of a French Philosopher named Gaston Bachelard, who died back in the 1960s.

He explored the phenomenology of poetry and poetics and used imagery in such a way that my imagination was fired and I could hardly read more than a couple of lines without having to put the book down and write a poem that his thoughts had triggered in mine. I ended up with around 800 new poems out of that experience.
That’s a hard act to follow, but I think I’m constantly looking for a similar experience when I read.
800 poems just from the course of studying one philosopher. That…wow. That, Sir, is an impressive exploration of language. What was an early experience where you learned that language had power?
I think I’ve always known it, Jean. As long as I can remember I have played with words, in my head and in my speech. Twisting and contorting words and finding their various meanings.
Playing with nuance and inflection and emphasis has always held pleasure for me.
An example comes from my secondary schooling when I didn’t want to complete a pretty boring essay that required a certain number of pages of work to be presented. Instead of completing the task in the usual way I, for some reason, submitted a poem. Correct number of pages, but very few words. I received a high mark (because poetry hadn’t been seen in my school since the previous century, I suspect), and have been writing poetry ever since.
Since you say you live with a fellow creative who’s a puppeteer, I just have to ask: do you write anything for the puppets to perform? This is a totally selfish question, I know, but when I was younger I used to write puppet plays and then perform them for the kindergartners at my elementary school. Loved every second of it.
That’s a lovely story of your own, Jean. Thanks for sharing it.
Leanne my wife has been performing puppet shows in pre-schools and kindergarten centres for many years, on and off. We have spoken often of a show that would be aimed at older students or adults, using my voice to read the poetry of the show, while Leanne performed with the puppets.
That may be creeping closer as an option with my transition into the authoring field.
We have collaborated in other ways in the past however.
Leanne designed my first attempted foray into book production some years ago, and from time to time has put poems I’ve written into music.
If you (or readers) care to listen and read, this link will take you to the poem ‘Time Comes’, on my poetry blog. I recently resurrected the piece to commemorate my 3 year anniversary as a blogger.
This is a link to Leanne’s interpretation of the piece as a song, posted on Soundcloud. Well worth the listen, I think.
You are very, very concise with your word choices in your poetry, so much so that when you have a line longer than four words I sit up and take notice. (an observation made with “#Somme (8): two pennies up (for the ambulance)”). When would you say you discovered this concise style within yourself, and how do you nurture it today?
An excellent question that touches on an aspect of writing that I think about a lot.
My discovery has been gradual. When I look at early work, I have used long lines, almost paragraph, in style. I think I started to seriously challenge myself with this when I started reading poetry at the various open mic venues in Melbourne that were available to me for a few years when I was starting out. I found that long lines and blocks of text were difficult to read under the lights and in front of a microphone.
I began experimenting then with writing to mimic speech – nuance and inflection, pause and enjambment. SO much so that it is now my writing style and unique to me, as far as I know.
More, though. I believe this approach of using line breaks to emphasize small pauses and inflections, and stanza breaks for breathing are a way to assist young folk to read more fluently. I won’t take up space here to expound my thesis but I have written on the subject over at my author page. I’ll be interested in your thoughts.
Oooo, thank you kindly! I look forward to reading it.
Now, You’ve re-issued one collection of poems—Small Town Kid. It’s a journey through your childhood, reminiscent of Seamus Heaney’s District and Circle. Do you find this period of life to be a common ground between poets and readers, and if so, why do you think we never tire of walking such grounds?

The first attempt to publish Small Town Kid was a wonderful adventure in book design and creativity between Leanne and myself. Unfortunately, it was back in the dark ages of printing, and to achieve cost efficiency it was necessary to purchase hundreds of copies of the book. I wasn’t ready to market myself or my books in that way, so the attempt was put to sleep until Print On Demand presented itself as an option.
I have been quite amazed by the strength of positive reaction to Small Town Kid. It certainly seems to resonate with readers.
I wonder if the reason for this connection is not akin to my reasons for writing the collection in the first place.
When I had small children of my own, I would routinely talk about what I and my friends had done when we were young – the freedom to roam, unsupervised is the chief characteristic of those times, in my mind. My kids, however, didn’t believe my stories. They seemed to be simply too far-fetched to be true.
I realised that a whole era of childhood (the 1960s and 70s) had disappeared by the mid-1990s. We had begun to supervise our children. To deliver them to friends and to school, and to collect them afterwards. Television and hand-held devices had begun to dominate child-life.
Writing the stories down seemed to make them more legitimate, in some way.
What I find with readers is that if I read, for example, the long poem ‘Crackers’ about bonfire night preparation and execution, I will have a line of people, mainly men, who have a bonfire lit in their eyes as they want to share with me their own experience and memories.
I think it is the imagery combined with the voice-song of telling or reading that allows the reader to enter their own best memories of childhood, and I believe it is the recollection of childhood freedom that makes these stories so attractive.
If you could tell your younger writing self anything, what would it be?
Not to be in a hurry for fame and success. I’ve always been a person who wanted things to happen immediately. If I was pursuing my career, I should get the next promotion. If was writing a poem, surely it was a most worthy creation and should be published immediately.
Learning to let go of that kind of pressure, placed on myself by myself, has been a great lesson for me.
I’ve found that the gift of time has allowed me to mature and become a better person, a better worker, a better poet.
I completely understand. Not only do I see it whenever I look at an old draft–heck, the first draft of my novel was written in 2010–but I can feel the change in my own perspective thanks to the growing creative expressions of my children. They tire me out, my little B’s, but I wouldn’t want them any other way. Writing helps my soul breathe and my passion to stay alight; does writing energize or exhaust you, and why?
For me, writing is like breathing, so there is no real question of growing tired from it. I can take a day or two off from writing, but I don’t really like to. I enjoy this part of myself very much.
What is tiring is attempting to master the ancillary roles – being an Author. Mastering the myriad details of properly publishing paperback and e-book formats. Marketing (oh lord, how tiring marketing can be!)
All part of the deal, though, so no point in wailing.
What is energizing, though, and what I know has a direct and beneficial effect on the quality if my writing, is reader feedback.
A comment or conversation with a reader is stimulating. A positive review is absolutely exhilarating, and I want, immediately, to sit down and write the next thing. Bigger, better, more astounding . . .
You get the drift, I’m sure. I love my readers and reviewers and the effect they have on me as a writer.
You and me both, Sir. You and me both.

My deepest thanks to Frank for taking the time to talk to me! Here are his vitals so you can find more information on Frank Prem and his work.
Author Page: https://FrankPrem.com
Poetry Blog: https://frankprem.wordpress.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/frank_prem
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/frankprem2
Small Town Kid is available on Amazon, Booktopia, Book Depository, and Barnes and Noble.
Devil in the Wind is available on Amazon, Booktopia, Book Depository, and Barnes and Noble.
~~STAY TUNED NEXT WEEK!~~
We’ll kick off August with the cover reveal to my new novella, “Night’s Tooth,” and a discussion of what makes the western so timeless.

More author interviews are on their way as well, plus a celebration of western soundtracks as I launch my first self-published story!
Read on, share on, and write on, my friends!

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How delightful to read this interview with Frank Prem. One of these days, we’ll get to Beechworth and meet him in person. In the meantime, we have widely enjoyed his ‘Small Town Kid’. In fact, I suggested it as a selection for our monthly book club. The club met Tuesday and everyone loved it. Amazing how small the world becomes.
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Oh how cool! I do hope you two can meet some day. 🙂 xxxxx
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I hope so too.
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We met for coffee yesterday. Frank and his wife were in Canberra on holiday.
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That’s awesome! xxxxx
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Thank you, Peggy. We’ll definitely meet up one day, I think.
So glad you enjoyed the interview.
The New Asylum (next book) is chugging along now and I’ll be inviting some cover comment soon. I’ll look for you, there.
Frank
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A great pleasure to chat with you, Jean. Thank you so much for hosting this interview.
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And thank you for chatting! I love sharing fellow authors with the world. 🙂
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A French philosopher inspired him to write over 800 poems. Amazing!
I’m an Emmylou Harris fan too. She’s great.
Bye till next time —
Neil
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Thanks for reading, Neil! Hope you’re well. 🙂
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Hi Neil,
Yes, my reading of his work was like a wildfire, for awhile. I don’t get the same reaction when I read him now – an aberrant moment that stretched for 2 years, I suppose.
One of the poems is here, https://wp.me/p7yTr8-76m , if you care to look,
Cheers,
Frank
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A great interview with Frank. I’m always in awe of poets, as I love poetry but am not very good at writing it myself.
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Ditto, Adele. The workings of the language and the pacing via white spaces always feel like a magic I’m never quite able to grasp. x Thanks for reading!
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Hi Adele. Thank you.
I’m so pleased you enjoyed the interview.
No need to be in awe of poets. Better to make them accountable for what they write, I think, by making sure people can understand their work.
Cheers,
Frank
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Sorry for late reply, Frank, wordpress is not showing me ll my comments. I really liked what you said. thank you.
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Lovely interview with you Frank. It reminds me I must get in touch with you! We must talk poems soon…
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Thanks Marje.
Yes we should chat. Amazing how our days fill up and flow away.
Delighted you enjoyed the interview.
Frank
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Thanks so much for reading!
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A lovely interview, Jean and Frank, lots of interesting insights. How nice to get some insights into the man behind the poems.
And, that Gaston Bachelard quote really caught me. I’ll have to have a dip into some of his writing.
Good luck, to both of you, with your publications. What great role-models you both are.
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Hi Cath. Thank you.
He was quite amazing in the ways he thought about and presented an understanding of poetry. For me, at least.
Delighted you enjoyed the interview.
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As ever, a fascinating and informative interview that I loved reading. One of the things that jumped out at me among Frank’s discussion about his collection Small Town Kid is his observation about the amount of freedom my generation had as children. We were tipped out of the house, expected to meet up with other neighbourhood children and amuse ourselves… And he’s right – that whole ethos disappeared very fast, because by the time I was raising my own children in the 1980s and 90s, it was unthinkable.
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Hi Sarah,
Thank you.
We have lived through so many changes – the last century was all about change, and this one, as well.
I wonder what kind of world our children’s children are growing up in.
Cheers,
Frank
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A very different one to the world that we grew up in – that’s for sure:))
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I have a old copy of the Poetics of Space. A long story but a college flame you gave me this book and the Pirsig Tome. It was one of those books which was so hard work but eventually you start to get rewarded for the investment. Super interview.
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I struggled with Persig, as well.
With the Bachelard, I found the text lit an imaginative fire in me at the time. I pick up a volume now, though, and struggle.
So glad yo enjoyed the interview.
Thank you,
Frank
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The pleasure is all mine. It’s always wonderful to come across somebody new who has the ability to make you think. Thank you.
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You’re very welcome.
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Thank you, my friend! Perhaps you’ll rediscover the book in your house someday and share it with your son… 🙂
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I really enjoyed this. It was almost like sitting in a room listening to you chat together. What a privilege. It was super-interesting to hear about Frank’s writing journey. There’s a part of me which dislikes the way the world has changed since my childhood, but without the huge strides in technology we wouldn’t be sitting here chatting across three continents.
Great conversation. Hats off to you both!
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Hi Chris. Thank you.
I have to catch myself from falling into ‘good old days’ syndrome. It’s just so easy to believe that what I grew up with is the way it still should be.
Hard to comprehend the amount and nature of change, though, sometimes.
Cheers,
Frank
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I know what you mean, Chris. I hate being so fearful of the entire planet with my kids in it, and yet I love how I can talk to you and so many others across the world with a few taps of the keys.
(though frankly, my kids record with the Emergency Room would have me paranoid about them being outside without me anyway, lol)
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Wonderful interview thanks to both of you Frank and Jean.. and I have loved both books and look forward to more…
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Thank you, Sally. I’ll let you know when it is getting close.
The MS for The New Asylum is in for editing as we speak, and over at http://www.frankprem.com, I have invited thoughts regarding a couple of cover options I’m considering for the collection.
Very exciting!
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Great Frank..looking forward to promoting..hugsx
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I’ll drop yo a line a little later to pick your thoughts about best ways forward, Sally. Thank you.
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Oh wonderful! Thanks so much for sharing!
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Another great interview! I love how you share bits and pieces about you and your life during the interviews. Frank’s experience is inspiring, especially the part about writing 800 poems and creating his own unique writing style. I thoroughly enjoyed your conversation and will check out his books.
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Thank you. I’m delighted you enjoyed the interview – Jean is pretty good at this, I think.
I hope you enjoy taking a peek at the books – I think both of them show a reasonable intro in the ‘look Inside’ section of the Kindle versions.
Cheers and thank you,
Frank
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Thanks so much, my friend!
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I always enjoy reading your Author interviews, Jean. Great questions and answers, lovely atmosphere.
I remember the world seemed so big when I was young 🙂 Best of luck with your books, Frank!
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Thank you, Inese. I hope the sun always shines on your memories. to keep them warm and wonderful. 🙂
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Thank you Frank! Childhood deserves a poem 🙂
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I’m so glad you enjoy them, Inese! It’s always great to see you here xxxxxxxxx
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Lovely to see Frank Prem featured here. A have read, and loved, both of his books.
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That is wonderful to hear. Thanks so much for reading!
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Thank you, Robbie, and thank you for tweeting as well. 🙂
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