
I connected with P.J. Lazos online as a fellow indie writer of fiction and nonfiction. Her discussions on environmental issues, writing, human virtue, and family are so compelling that I just had to introduce her to all of you.
First, let’s talk about you. Your biography reflects many passions: a passion for truth as a journalist, a passion to fight for what can’t as an environmental lawyer, and a passion for words as a writer. Which of these passions shown itself in you first, and how did it influence your other passions?
I think my strong sense of justice started in childhood. My mother had a baby who died at three months old. I was three years old at the time and remember thinking how unfair it was for our family, but especially for my mother who was devastated by the loss. I think I tried so hard to make it right for her, but of course, what could I do. Maybe the words grew out of that experience — definitely the emotion. I remember journaling when I was a kid although then it was called “keeping a diary” an no where near as in vogue as it is now so clearly the name change helped. As for my bit with the environment, well, my mom used to wrap me in a blanket and tuck me under the big oak tree in the backyard and I would lie there and have a conversation with the tree, or at least that’s what it looked like in the video, so I think that started then, too.

Your Six Sisters series delves into the nuances of family life and all its beautiful imperfections. Now I’m not going to strictly ask if this is autobiographical, but were any characters inspired by family or friends in your life? What drew you to share their stories?
That’s funny. My brother-in-law from my first marriage — I still maintain a solid relationship with my ex-husband and former in-laws — asked me the same question about List of 55. The answer is complicated. No, in that the over-the-top behaviors of the characters in that story were definitely not us, but yes in that the underlying emotion behind a break-up was definitely there. You don’t have to have a specific experience to write about it convincingly as long as you can access the emotion behind it. For example, I remarried and my now husband’s first wife died when their two kids were very young. Hearing that story from his POV allowed me to access his unbearable loss and I created a character — David Hartos in Oil and Water — loosely based on my husband who was also a commercial diver. He provided me with insight into how a heart completely busted open by grief struggled to raise two kids as well as how the world of commercial diving worked. I think that as writers, a piece of you lands in every story you ever write, but some are just more autobiographical than others. The part of List of 55 where the central character has a miscarriage — that precise situation did not happen to me, but I did have a miscarriage in a bathroom stall at 30th St. Station in Philadelphia and I think it may have been the saddest, most horrific moment of my life. I tried to write about it before, but it never came out with the gravity I wanted to convey so I put all that angst into Belinda’s character and that’s what I got. Sometimes it’s easier to process your own pain through a made up character. Isn’t that a staple of psychological counseling for kids, and aren’t we all just kids walking around in adult bodies, still harboring all the crap and still relishing all the joys we experienced in childhood?

Now, your most recent novel, Oil and Water, is an environmental thriller. Considering your legal expertise, I imagine you didn’t have to do a ton of research for this novel…or is that being presumptuous?
Yeah, I wish it worked that way for me, but it doesn’t. I started with doing some initial research about converting trash into oil and about the Marsh Arabs and the wetlands in the Fertile Crescent (which you would remember from studying Egypt or Mesopotamia), but a lot of the rest, like you, I googled as I went. I have enough information in my head to get me started, but my memory isn’t always a straight arrow so I need to fact check. My favorite kind of fiction is where you learn something so I wanted to be sure I was passing on real time information.
As the premise of Oil and Water brings readers to difficult questions about our dependence on fossil fuels, your website Green Life Blue Water also informs readers of some amazing environmental initiatives that are doing their communities some good. Are there any current programs you’d like to highlight right now?
Rain gardens and aquaponics! I’m a member of the Junior League of Lancaster, a group that’s been operating in Lancaster since 1923. This is my 8th year in the League and I love being part of a volunteer women’s organization. We are doing some really cutting edge stuff like building rain gardens which are basically bowl-like depressions planted with hydrophytic plants that hold stormwater and rain water in high flow times as a way to divert it out of combined sewer system.
This year we’re adding aquaponics to the mix which is basically a fish tank with food growing on top — veggies, herbs, whatever you want (well, maybe not pumpkins). The fish poop fertilizes the plants so it’s a self-contained system. We’re doing a pilot project at an elementary school here in Lancaster, installing four tanks in four second grade classrooms and putting together some curriculum to go with it. We want to make a “pizza garden” with basil, oregano, cherries tomatoes, and a few other things so when the kids harvest the food in the tank we can throw them a pizza party. So lots happening: how ecosystems interact, close up look tan water and nutrients, nutrition, and more, I’m sure. Hands on learning is really the best way to get those kind of lessons across. I just learned that the Aztecs were the first to do aquaponics. The called it Chinampas. So you see, I’m learning something, too.
You are also a member of the Insecure Writers’ Support Group, correct? Can you tell us a little about this program and how writers can join?

I actually don’t do that anymore. It was quite fun, but a friend of mine asked me what I had to be insecure about since she loved my writing. That started me thinking about The Law of Attraction and how what you think about all day long is what manifests in your life so I stopped participating in IWSG and started participating in WATWB, We Are the World Blogfest, which had just started. WATWB happens on the last Friday of every month and it showcases positive news stories as a way to counteract all the negativity in the world, an “accentuate the positive” approach to news and life. I also found this group to be more “my people”, writers all, but focused on social justice, environmental issues, a better life for all people. Plus you get a real lift from reading the stories people post.
Lastly, what advice would you like to share with those who are unsure how to explore their family or other passions with writing?
Journaling is always a great way to get started. I always kept a kind-of notebook, but when my daughter was born, a friend gave me a beautiful black sketch book with lovely, creamy paper. I had four months off from work, plus another four on a very part-time basis, I wrote a journal in earnest, a love letter to my kid that I intend to give her one of these days when she’s ready to read it. Her dad and I split before she was born and I wanted to get everything I was feeling down on paper. We joke now that she came out screaming because I was so angry when I was pregnant. Unless I’m reading her wrong, today, like me, she laughs readily and sees both the irony and the gifts in most situations. I don’t write in a journal as much as I used to, but I have a blog and much of what I would write in the journal goes in the blog. One thing I would suggest and that I myself need to get back to is morning pages, something Julia Cameron suggested in “the Artist’s way.” A brain dump every morning to get the gook out and start fresh — something that both reaps and sows benefits. Your mind is clearer, and you’re not as much of a jerk to the the person behind the counter who gets your order wrong or the one who cuts you off in traffic. It helps you to be more chill, in addition to generating ideas, and we all could use more of that.
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My deepest thanks to P.J. for taking time to time to talk to us! You can find her Amazon page here and her Twitter page here.
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Oh, and I just gotta say how cool it is that four of my Tales of the River Vine are STILL in the Top 10 Free YA Fantasy Monster Fiction.

That’s two months now, and going strong! Thank you thank you THANK YOU!

I do hope you’ll leave a review on my novel letting me know which characters you dig–and which you want to see more of! I’m brainstorming up some more Tales. xxxxxx
Read on, share on, and write on, my friends!

Well, Ms Lee. We manage to synchronize our post this week! I am taken with the obvious, yet often forgotten insecurity of not just writers but all artists and would be artists. Insecurity is possibly the most creative of things. A fascinating read and best wishes to both you and Ms Lazos. Regards, The Old Fool
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Hello hello, Master Steeden! Happy to bump into you before the chaos of waking children for school. Many thanks to you, Kind Sir, Old Fool, from this, the Young’n’Crazy Fool xxxxx
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A fabulous interview with a really interesting person. I love the breadth of what she had to say – you know some really cool people!
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I am very, VERY blessed by this amazing community of writers and readers, to be sure! xxxxxxx
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And that is down to you – of course!
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Aaaaaaw, shucks, you’re giving me the squishes 🙂
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Thank you. I’m blushing. :0)
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Reblogged this on lampmagician.
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Thank you for the reblog. :0)
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It’s a pleasure to read it 👍❤🙏
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Thank you, friend. 🙏😍
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Pam is very amazing. I’ve known that for quite a while, and this interview makes it even more obvious.
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I know, right? She’s a wonder, through and through. xxxxxx
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Aw, you guys… xo
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xxxx 🙂 xxxx
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Aw, thanks, Neil, but it takes one to know one and how amazing this community of writers is, so supportive of each other. It’s like the last bastion of sanity in an otherwise crazed world!
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Great interview and she sounds like a fascinating author. Certainly going to check her work out. Thank you so much.
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Most welcome, Friend. xxxxx
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Many thanks for your support. :0)
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Fantastic interview, full of insight. Great news, too, about your Tales of the River Vine.
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Thank you so much!
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Thank you! Yeah, it’s pretty exciting to let the brain storm up some crazy new stuff 😉
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Jean — thanks for sharing your platform and the gift of your time. I am humbled and grateful. :0) xoxoxo
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You are always welcome. Being your friend is an honor, and sharing your work is a privilege and a joy. xxxxxxxx
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Thanks so much, my kindred spirit. 🙏😍❤️🌅
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Aw, shucks. Hugs! 🙂 xxxxxxxx
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Liked this interview hugely. Have been out of it for a while, while having a nasty illness (including sepsis) and then getting over that and am hopefully getting back into the world of writing etc … and reading other people’s blogs again and all that … reminded me why I am following PJL! We also have ‘Brexit’ over here (UK) which drives me mad – it is a horrible idea, and our government are behaving horribly, disgracefully … – I cd do with being in touch with a group of writers who aim to blog positive news!
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Thanks so much for reading! You’re also absolutely right about finding some positive news. I’m so sorry about what your country is going through. The United States is in its own insanity with the government behavior, too, which makes positive news all the more wonderful. Case in point: a Wisconsin girl whose parents were murdered during her abduction escaped her captor after 88 days. She’s back home with family, and the captor is caught. Good news, indeed!
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Hi Mari! Thanks for reading! I’m following Brexit, too, and I think y’all need another referendum. It could be a collective hysteria that led to the first vote to leave the EU. Divided we fall, eh? Is there any traction for that? I watched Fahrenheit 11/9 last night which was the Michael Moore film on how America got to its own point of insanity. Totally eye-opening. Time to get money out of politics and get the health and well-being of the people back in. Have a blessed day. ;0)
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Thank you both for this wonderful interview! I am a fan of Pam’s. I enjoy her blog and I enjoy her her openness, honesty, vulnerability and pizzazz – a wonderfully human mix that is compelling in a writer I think. And of course, as a fan, I enjoyed learning more about her too 🙂
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Thanks so much for reading! Pam’s a beautiful soul. xxxxxx
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Pauline, I am speechless. Thank you, dear heart, for your words of encouragement. xo
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Absolute pleasure 🙂
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Jean, firstly back here after a crazy day involving families yesterday. Not sure who asks the best questions between you and Pam–bet you thought I was going to say..not sure I want to go there re yesterday’s families and I don’t so we will leave that. and say, re the questions bit, I am unsure cos the things you both deal in are so close to my heart. That is what makes this an amazing interview. Pam and Jean, you are both of you, above all else, survivors and great ladies with it too. Pam, lost babies are hard to write about. x I think, above all else, what I value about you two, is the smile is on your faces regardless. And that shows big time in this interview xxx
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And for such sweet words, Lovely Lady Shey, I shall give a hug in return and deepest thanks, and a little prayer that yesterday’s business with families settles into something more peaceable soon.
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Lol–it won’t, it is just something I live with but it is not my nearest and dearests. Love you sweet lady for your thoughts x
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The survivor in me bows to the survivor in you, dear friend. You both continue to be an inspiration to me! xo
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Aaaaw tipped hats to you both! xxxxxx
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Another great interview, Jean Lee – you pose good questions! I am greatly inspired by writer interviews, but in this one I also learned a bit about rain gardens and aquaponics! These are the types of “good news” stories that I like!
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Yes, exactly! She’s so in tuned with positive doings that help the earth in the urban setting. It’d be cool to apply these programs where I live, that’s for sure!
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Thank you, Leslie. I am so happy that you found it interesting. I am and always will be inspired by this quote of Ralph Waldo Emerson’s: “To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know that even one life has breathed easier because you have lived – that is to have succeeded.”
Amen to that, eh?
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AMEN❣️
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Double congratulations Jean.
As always, a fascinating interview, with lots of useful pointer for writers. I too believe that writing is influenced by our experiences, though I wonder if sometimes it’s largely a subconscious process, and that’s why it’s so complicated. I have noticed though that readers seem to prefer to believe the writer has experienced what they write about – it’s one of the most commonly asked questions in the reading groups I run.
And, well done with your writing. Two months in the top ten is very impressive. Long may it continue.
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Thank you, Friend! And I agree–there’s a degree of expectation within reader and writer both that the writer MUST have experience in the subject matter. this could be a problem, as I have 0% experience with a story I’m drumming up…
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That’s where the mysterious business of creativity comes in, though. I’m sure you’ll emote the experience beautifully.
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Yes, Cath. I believe we writers can get miles out of a bit of experience! xo
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I can’t believe I’m responding only now but at least I had the pleasure of re-reading it when I was checking mail on emails. Thank you Jean for this interview of Pam. I love her blogs and her skill at writing. I had no idea of her miscarriage or any of her ‘back stories’ or how she says about using another’s experience to delve into the underlying emotion in her creation of her characters in her fiction writing.
I like what she says about the IWSG – i.e. like attracting like and I wonder if this is why I’ve not been involved, although I do like what writers say. But maybe it’s just because of time …
Thank you for the penetrating questions – I MUCH enjoyed this.
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Thanks so much for reading! Pam is an amazing soul. xxxx
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Hi Susan — it seems my original comment got lost in the blogosphere. Don’t know why my responses get rejected from your blog. Another of life’s mysteries, I guess. Thank you for your beautiful comment and all your many other gestures of support. You are a rock star in so many ways and one of the reasons blogging is so fun for me. ;0) xo
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Thank you Pam – you make my days brighter when I read your blog so may I return the compliment 10 fold! Eish, (like Ish or Oosh, very much a South African expression) I’m sorry about any response from you being rejected … am seriously NOT pleased and very narked to hear that … I’ll check in spam? Have a great week!
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You, too. Susan! Eish, Ish and Oosh! (Although I’m not totally sure what they mean. 😂)❤️
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It means Eina! Or ouch! With regard to not being able to respond – 😀❤️
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Oooooh! What’s the phonetic? Eeeena?
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Good interview. Very interesting writer. Ms. Lazos seems like the perferct person to write an enveironmental thriller.
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She is indeed. 🙂
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Thank you very much. :0) It’s my passion, so there’s that. ;0)
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